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SGT. MIKE CALLAGHAN, OTTAWA POLICE SERVICES: Ottawa
police are again collecting unwanted firearms and ammunition from residents
who want to dispose of them safely. The Gun Amnesty initiative kicks off
on Monday and runs until April 25. Police said turning over the unregistered
firearms reduces the risk that they might be stolen and used for criminal
purposes. "We come across firearms on a weekly basis that
are unregistered. I think this is a proactive approach to dispose
of those unwanted firearms," said Staff Sgt. Mike Callaghan of the
guns and gang unit. SASKATCHEWAN RCMP OFFICER (Name withheld by Garry Breitkreuz, MP): I am a peace officer with the Royal Canadian Mounted Police and am currently posted to the xxxxxxxxxx Detachment. One of my current responsibilities is to train new cadets that have recently graduated from Depot Division by furthering their "hands on" training in the field. I am very concerned about this new Bill regarding firearms registration. I am concerned that if it is not passed in the House that more Mounties may face the same fate as the two young men did within this last month. This firearms registration must be abolished once and for all! I find that I have to deprogram every cadet that I train when it comes to CFRO checks and their reliability in regards to officer safety. One dark evening, myself and a newly graduated cadet had to visit a residence of someone suspected of a violent crime. The cadet told me, rather proudly, that they had conducted a CFRO check on the house and that it showed that there were no firearms present, so we would not have to worry. I scolded his ignorance and naivety. I told him to stop and think about that for a moment. I said, "Do you honestly think that someone who is already living a criminal lifestyle and is in possession of firearms has any intention of registering them?" I told him to never place any faith in the registry and most of all, never trust that notion that just because nothing is registered to an individual then an officer's safety is insured. Conversely also, do not ever believe that just because someone has a firearm registered that they will never use it in the commission of an offence! It does not matter if a gun is registered, if someone is bent on crime they will use a registered or non-registered gun. If no gun is available, they will use something else. In my evaluation, the registry only causes more criminal code infractions (before the amnesty) as police query law abiding citizens' guns to see if they are registered only to find out that they may not be - in spite of the claims that the owner did in fact attempt to register them; or the information on the registration certificate is incorrect, etc. making the gun owner appear negligent. The gun registry places police officers' lives at risk. The gun registry offers a false sense of security. The gun registry is making criminals out of otherwise law-abiding citizens. The gun registry is eating up resources that the RCMP and every other municipal or first nation force desperately need. The gun registry consumes valuable time for the average police officer on the street who has real crime to fight. Saying that the guns are the problem in this society is like saying pens are the cause of spelling errors, or that cars are the cause of drunk driving, or like saying fast food restaurants are the cause of obesity. When will common sense prevail? People need to be held accountable for their actions - whether with firearms, alcohol, vehicles, etc. That is what the Conservatives did with the Liberals when in opposition and then on a larger scale once elected. The
gun registry brings justice into disrepute. It is an absolute waste of
taxpayers money. The registry does nothing to fight the crime issues in
this country. Please do everything possible to make sure that this Bill
passes.
CALGARY POLICE ASSOCIATION PRESIDENT AL KOENIG: The
aim by the province to curb gang violence by tabling an amnesty on guns
is hardly bulletproof, says a city police official. Calgary Police
Association president Al Koenig is skeptical of the Alberta government's
plan to have people willingly hand over unregistered guns. "To presume
that gangsters will hand over their guns, somebody is living in wonderland,"
Koenig said. "Gang-bangers' guns are already illegal, and
they're already committing so many crimes that carrying an unregistered
firearm is the least of their worries." Koenig said under a gun amnesty,
a proposal to be introduced tomorrow, Albertans may turn in guns they
have at home they don't want, but the ones carried by gang members should
be the targets. "The only way to get a gun away from a gang member
is when a police officer takes it away from them,” Koenig said.
Koenig pointed to the federal government initiative calling for increased
jailtime for gun crimes as stronger arsenal in the fight against gang
violence. RETIRED TORONTO POLICE SGT MICHAEL MAYS
- Re: Canada's
gun laws must be tougher Editorial, Sept. 18. Though the chiefs of
police may endorse it, as a working police officer in Toronto for 33 years,
I found the long gun registry terribly flawed and a waste of time, energy
and money. It needs to be dismantled, not strengthened. For the last six
years, I worked the streets of the Jane-Finch area, so I've attended my
share of weapons calls. Not once did I ever seek or rely on information
from the gun registry. It was irrelevant. Your statement that
it is used 5,000 times a day by police is misleading. A check of the registry
is done automatically every time an officer is dispatched to an address,
wanted or not. From its inception, I was advised not to depend on it to
make decisions. It is outdated, inaccurate and completely unreliable.
To make a decision at a call based on registry information would be foolish
at best and deadly at worst. Gun free zones would ensure only
criminals have guns and central repositories would only ensure a greater
haul when they are broken into. Perhaps, if there are more officers walking
the streets or the courts were not so backlogged that plea bargaining
has become a necessity, gun crime might be detected early and punished
appropriately. The $2 billion from the gun registry would have gone a
long way in making that happen. SERGEANT
BOB COTTINGHAM - LETHBRIDGE, ALBERTA: Not once, however,
during my career do I recall using the gun registry to solve a major crime.
Simply put, the vast majority of criminals use firearms
which don't come close to being included in this bureaucratic jumble of
information. Letter-writer Wendy Cukier may also be disappointed to know
that I observed that most front-line officers have little
faith in the gun registry, and see it as another bloated
and failed attempt by the former government to appease its constituents. CPL.
MARTIN GAUDET: In dangerous situations, city police preferred
to rely on their own information rather than call the registry office
in Miramichi. Cpl. Martin Gaudet said officers responding to a potentially
dangerous situation always assume there's a firearm involved. "We
don't check with the registry during a gun-related incident," he
said. CALGARY
POLICE ASSOCIATION PRESIDENT: Bolstering the Tories'
argument is the Calgary Police Association, the union representing the
city's police officers, which insists proposed mandatory minimum sentences
for gun crimes -- and not the gun registry -- will curb firearms offences.
"Wiping the slate clean and not making responsible gun owners
into criminals is a good start," said association president Al Koenig.
A.B.J.
(BEN) BEATTY: 23-YEAR VETERAN OF THE ONTARIO PROVINCIAL POLICE:
In June of 2006 I will be commencing my 24th year as a member of the
Ontario Provincial Police. For 18 of those years I have been assigned
the rank of Detective, specifically assigned to major criminal investigations.
I must point out that in all my experience as a police officer I have
only investigated one homicide were a firearm was the weapon used in the
slaying. In contrast, the majority of murders that I have been involved
in as an investigator, a knives were preferred and two separate occasions
a hammer was the weapon of choice. I have however been
involved in the investigation of countless offences such as robbery, where
handguns were the weapon of choice and I must point out Sir, that the
firearms registry did not assist in solving one, nor obviously in deterring
one. The reasons that the firearms registry is so highly ineffectual are,
I believe obvious, but basically it affects the wrong people, law abiding
citizens and not criminals. [READ MORE] http://www.garrybreitkreuz.com/publications/2006_new/54.htm LEN
GRINNELL, RETIRED RCMP STAFF-SARGEANT: As you
have already responded to the position of the Canadian Association of
Chiefs of Police (CACP) in this regard, I offer my wholehearted agreement.
As a retired member of the RCMP, who supervised police officers in Canada's
largest Detachments, I have grave concerns about the reliance on the registry
for data which could result in death or injury of a police officer.
Accepting the premise that criminals will not register guns, one has
to wonder how that would affect approaching a residence or premises that
had been checked with the registry and found "no firearms present"?
In the case of a "hit" that indicates the residence in question
is owned by a lawful firearms owner, what approach would the police take.
My experience has told me that the greatest hazard to police officers
is complacence and I found it prudent to continually remind my staff of
that fact. Relying on a flawed system for officer safety will eventually
lead to a tragedy. It is unfortunate that the CACP did not take the time
to consider the consequences of their position and the safety of the men
and women they represent. GILBERT
YARD, RETIRED RCMP SUPERINTENDENT:
I am appalled at just how much has been spent to date on the firearms
registration process. But perhaps even more disturbing is the misplaced
focus on legal firearms. Like
many reasonable Canadians, I support programs that address the structural
and social situations that give rise to crime. Our first objective should
be to promote law-abiding, non-destructive behaviour in as many members
of society as possible. There comes a point, however, where punishment
and protection of the public must be the focus. In these cases, illegal
acts and violent behaviour should be treated with appropriate penalties.
From reading my views on gun control and firearms legislation, I suspect
that many might feel that I am a "gun nut" with pro-American
feelings regarding gun possession. This is just not so. Growing up, my
family had limited contact with firearms but we were raised to believe
that a gun was a serious tool to be used in appropriate circumstances
only. I can understand people who emotionally react to guns as all bad
but I am convinced that such emotion can mask the true problem of illegal
gun possession and/or usage. During my 37 years of policing
I carried a handgun as a tool of my profession. I was also exposed to
a wide cross-section of collectors and target shooters who used, stored
and transported their weapons in a legal and responsible manner. They
are not the problem. The misdirection of time, effort and funding is unforgivable.
I believe that Canadians are much too astute to believe that either Bill
C-68 or the proposed handgun legislation is anything other than a waste
of time, effort and money. Wasting public funds that could really make
a difference in acute justice issues, in my view, borders on criminal
activity. ERIC
W. FERGUSON, Retired Chief of Police and RCMP Officer:
I was 75 years of age on Dec. 31, 2005. Part of my life's story
was serving 24 years with the Royal Canadian Mounted Police and four years
as Police Chief for the City of Saint John, New Brunswick, Canada. For
the past six or seven years I have stood by and watched the Liberal Government
of Canada mishandle gun control and in the process not save one life,
but encouraging criminals to commit more offences and yes, help to turn
good honest Canadians into criminals. Now Prime Minister your
plan to banish all handguns is real "dumb". Sir, have you not
figured out yet, that criminals do not register their guns, not now or
in the future? Your political plan will not save one life! DENIS
COTE, PRESIDENT OF THE QUEBEC MUNICIPAL POLICE FEDERATION:
A female police officer, gunned down with a weapon powerful enough
to kill an elephant while answering a noise complaint, had previously
helped arrest her alleged killer for harassing another policewoman. FranAois
Pepin was charged yesterday with first-degree murder in the death of Const.
Valerie Gignac and possessing a firearm. Pepin was also charged with breaking
a 1999 probation condition by having a gun outside hunting season. Laval
police, reeling from Wednesday's death of their colleague, were blunt
in their assessment that the justice system let them down. "How
come if you have a ban, you're not allowed to possess a firearm for 10
years, how come you can allow it for the hunting season?" asked Denis
Cote, president of the Quebec municipal police federation. "If you're
a threat for everybody, make sure you're a threat for all 12 months in
a year." LEO
TONEGUZZI, RETIRED CHIEF OF POLICE: WHEN WILL
politicians quit abusing law-abiding members of our society for personal
gain? Guns do not kill people. People kill people. Whether it is a gun,
knife, baseball bat or other weapon it is merely the means to gain the
end result. Mr. Martin, your government promised that the foolhardy
gun registration laws you initiated would end the high amount of violence
throughout Canada. That plan failed and now to get votes in the greater
G.T.A. area you propose an entire ban on all handguns. Did the
government ever take a good look at why the violence is occurring? What
has the justice system done for us? (Add up the number of years spent
in jail by these offenders in the past 10 years for the serious crimes
they committed.) Have you tracked the parole boards' decisions? (How many
re-offenders have committed serious crimes while on parole?) Who are committing
these violent crimes? Is there a common link to drugs? Why can criminals
readily obtain hand guns brought in from the U.S.A.? Who are the persons
committing all these violent crimes in Toronto? Is there a common link
to any specific people and has anyone tried to improve society of these
persons, or addressed their problems? Finally, how many of these
crimes have been committed by persons who legally own registered handguns?
NONE! SASKATCHEWAN
RCMP OFFICER: “I met with an RCMP officer
this week who was told by his superiors to stop sending requests to the
gun registry before attending domestic disputes because he ‘was
putting his life in danger’. The RCMP officer was told the usual
‘no guns’ response to his query ‘creates a false sense
of security’. The young officer was also told that if he ever criticized
the gun registry publicly his career would be over,” reported Breitkreuz. AL
KOENIG, PRESIDENT OF THE CALGARY POLICE ASSOCIATION:
But the move may not have the desired effect of cutting down crime
because criminals will still be armed, said Al Koenig, president of the
Calgary Police Association, the union representing about 1,500 local police
officers. "Banning handguns simply doesn't work. You want minimum
sentencing for possession of handguns or using them in the commission
of an offence." "That is a very simple solution to a very complex
problem," Mr. Koenig said. "The ironic thing is after
spending $2-billion-plus trying to register them, the best the government
can come up with is to outright ban them -- it doesn't solve the problem,"
he said. JOHN
GAYDER, SERVING POLICE OFFICER IN ONTARIO – LETTER TO PUBLISHER
OF BLUELINE MAGAZINE: Not only has the gun registry
diverted billions of dollars from the blue front lines, it has also sowed
the seeds of ill will amongst a growing portion of otherwise law abiding
gun owners. This group was previously steadfast supporters of the law
enforcement community. Many of them now increasingly view us as the enemy
or as buffoons. The registry is great at telling me what LAW ABIDING
people duly registered their guns. These were never the people I needed
to worry about. I don’t trust the registry because it will never
be able to tell me what I need to know about the riskier anti social [expletive
deleted] I may potentially be pulling over at 3am. Criminals and kooks
DON’T REGISTER their guns. Every just thinking person abhors
gun deaths, but the registry is a costly and misleading flop. There were
several technical reasons that guaranteed it would be a flop from the
get go. The worst part is that the “gun lobby” warned us about
them from the start. They were right and the Chiefs of police were wrong.
Believe it. MURRAY
GRISMER, SERVING POLICE OFFICER IN SASKATCHEWAN– LETTER TO PUBLISHER
OF BLUELINE MAGAZINE: The strongest lobby against
the Firearm Registry is “Truth”; which the public, police
and media are slowly come to grips with. They realize they have been sold
a dead horse that no matter how much life you try to blow into it, or
how much money they spend on Band-Aids or proposed miracle cures, will
never ride. The value of the Registry when responding to a domestic dispute
is again another red herring thrown out by the Proponents as justification
for the obscene expenditure of money. As a police officer with
19 years experience, the last thing I am willing to stake my life on is
the information contained in the Firearm Registry. Not only is the information
unverified and inaccurate, it has little to do with where a firearm is
possibly stored or located. Of greater value is the licensing
of owners for this at the very least is an indicator of who may potentially
have a firearm in their possession; and yet I would still be a fool to
risk my life on negative hit to a query of this information. As
a police officer who represented the Saskatchewan Association of Police
Officers in opposition to the Firearm Registry, I have spoken with police
from across Canada who see little or no value in the Registry. Many have
gone so far as to question the rational or motive of the Canadian Professional
Police association’s continued endorsement of it. I have
to agree with you when you question, “How can it ever work?”
I don’t believe it can; it hasn’t in any other jurisdiction
where tried. It is time to bury that dead horse; start allocating the
resources to Canada’s Police and Justice Systems so that we all
can feel safer in our homes and at our professions. RCMP
OFFICER IN SASKATCHEWAN: I am an R.C.M.P. member
who complied with the registration process for long guns in the last online
registration push. Last month I traded the firearm I registered online
at wholesale sports in Saskatoon. When they went to process my registration
for the new firearm they were told that the one I traded in was never
registered. Another waste of taxpayers’ money. As a police
officer that just confirmed my faith in the current gun registry system
and that the current government is doing nothing to protect our members
and the general public.
NOT-SO-RECENT QUOTES TORONTO
POLICE CHIEF BILL BLAIR:
Almost a quarter of people cops apprehend with guns are already
prohibited from carrying firearms as a result of a previous conviction,
Blair said. "It's quite apparent that for those individuals those
prohibitions have very little effect," Blair said. FIREARMS
COMMISSIONER BILL BAKER: On the change of
address, if someone is prohibited from having a firearm in the country
they are no longer effectively covered by the Firearms Act. CORPORAL
WAYNE OAKES, AN RCMP SPOKESMAN, said investigators
still do not know whether the rapid-fire rifle was registered. And even
if they did, he said he is not sure whether that information would be
publicly released. "I know some people want to take a jab at the
gun registry," he said yesterday. "But from our perspective,
it would have made no difference if it was registered or not." 17-YEAR
VETERAN OF THE YORK REGIONAL POLICE FORCE: The streets of Toronto
are still a mess with people being shot and killed every week with, you
guessed it, unregistered guns. The gun registry has failed to address
the real problem in this country which is all the gun violence occurring
on the streets of the big cities. As far as domestic homicides go, please
do not tell me that if the long gun was registered, that this fact would
of saved the spouse’s life. You know as well as I know that the
registry does not save lives. In summary, taking guns away from people
that should not have them will save lives. This is done through more police
officers on the street enforcing existing laws and orders. RCMP
COMMISIONER GIULIANO ZACCARDELLI: There was no way to predict
the shooting deaths of four RCMP officers in Mayerthorpe, Alta., but the
force's commissioner revealed yesterday that investigators
went so far as to interrogate a fellow police officer who grew up with
the killer before launching the fatal raid. Police were well-versed in
the police-hater James Roszko's criminal past and Commissioner Giuliano
Zaccardelli said more questions surround Canada's criminal justice system
than the force's handling of the incident. "Questions have begun
about how an individual like James Roszko has been dealt with by the criminal
justice system, even by law enforcement," Commissioner Zaccardelli
said. "Once again the issues of civil liberties, jurisprudence and
human rights and mental health are all parts of the mix. "An ordinary
and manageable police investigation took a random and unexpected turn
to the unmanageable and tragic." Commissioner Zaccardelli
added: "There is no possible way to plan for, or manage, the insane
behaviours of an individual who has crossed the line from criminal to
stalker, from suspect to enemy." LEN
MILLER RETIRED DETECTIVE, VANCOUVER POLICE DEPARTMENT:
I would invite letter writer Ron Charach (Forgotten Guns -- May 9) to
do the following: Take a .38-calibre Smith & Wesson revolver, load
it, cock it and place it on the kitchen table. Now take a pit bull and
sit it beside the table. Then open your back door and wait to see which
one will kill. RETIRED
SGT. RANDY NELSON:
Kerry, You are kidding right? Your article was biased, journalistic
clap-trap, and you know it! 3.6 million Police inquires...really? Too
bad Garry Breitkreuz can't get at that information, nor can the AG. You
know as well as I do that 3.6 million queries is a trumped up number and
nobody in the CFR knows where those numbers come from or if they're valid.
Your "subject expert" is a shill for the registry. Gee, Kerry,
did you think that Rick Buckley was going to bad mouth the registry? Where
do you think his paycheck comes from? NWEST is the enforcement (what a
joke) arm of the registry. But then again you knew that. If you endorse
the registry, then go on the record and say so. But quit your deceit,
because we are getting killed out here by ill informed, truth twisting,
pundits such as yourself. Let me quote your other "expert" source
for the "backing" you claim. Carver: "It's an investigative
aid for front-line policing that police members use to find out if there
are firearms in the house." Did any of our four young Mounties use
the registry to "find out if there are firearms in the house?”
God help you and any other supporter if they did. Roszko was a zero in
the system -- prohibited from owning firearms. There should not have been
so much as a cap-gun on this monster's property. What a Liberal minded,
utopianist debacle! Your parting shot regarding the "million dollar"
question is easily answered Kerry. Firstly you error, it's a two-billion
dollar question, and the answer is -- yes. More Officers will die amid
an ocean of faulty and incomplete firearms data. More civilians will die
as a result of misplaced priorities. A disgusted reader... WINNIPEG
POLICE SGT. PAUL BROWN: Cops are discovering a wide
variety of weapons, from high-quality handguns to sawed-off shotguns and
"the odd machine-gun," said Brown, who is a member of the National
Weapons Enforcement Support Team. Most of them aren't registered,
he added. FORMER
RCMP COMMISSIONER NORMAN INKSTER: But would
the registry have prevented the senseless murders of those women in Montreal?
No, just as it's not enough to stop most gun crime today. That's because
criminals who use guns do not register their guns first. Anecdotal
evidence suggests that between 50 per cent and 80 per cent of gun crimes
in Canada involve guns that were smuggled in from the United States. The
rest were probably once in the hands of law-abiding Canadians but, through
loss or theft, ended up in the hands of criminals. Either way,
the registry does little or nothing to help police link actual crimes
to actual guns. POLICE CHIEF LARRY HAY: Let's not forget the aboriginal men and women who police on reserves in this country ,with next to nothing for resources and often work alone due to ridiculous working conditions and under-staffing levels not tolerated anywhere else in the country. For the majority the gun registry was just a slap in the face on two fronts. It has not improved their ability to combat violent crime one iota, and secondly it has disregarded and infringed upon the law-abiding aboriginal hunter by turning them into criminals by refusing to have another law imposed upon them that ignores their way of life and just doesn't make sense. For a fraction on what has been wasted on the registry Canada could have gone along way to making the aboriginal policing profession a viable career option for aboriginal youth. Keep up the good work! Police
Chief Larry Hay RETIRED
O.P.P. SUPERINTENDENT RON COLLINS: I am a retired
33 year veteran of the Ontario Provincial Police. I spent 20 years as
a front line officer in rural Ontario and another 8 years as a senior
crime investigator in the Headquarters Anti-Rackets and Criminal Investigation
Branches before assuming a non-operational position. I retired with the
rank of Superintendent and was for several years a member of the Ontario
Association of Chiefs of Police. I also have 3 children and a son-in-law
currently serving with the Ontario Provincial Police. RCMP
CONSTABLE WILLIAM RUDOLPH: Members of the Canadian
Unregistered Firearms Owners Association met in the woods at Island East
River for the Gordon Hitchen Memorial Skeet Shooting Competition. None
of the guns used in the competition was registered. "We
want the police to come out here and charge us," said Ed Hudson,
a Saskatchewan member taking part in the competition. The local
on-duty RCMP officer declared the skeet shoot a "non-event."
In a radio message relayed to reporters by an off-duty officer catching
up with paperwork at the Stellarton detachment, Const. William
Rudolph intimated that police had more important things to do than get
involved in a protest. CALGARY
POLICE ASSOCIATION PRESIDENT: And for many,
the $1-billion price tag over the past decade still rankles. "One
billion dollars would put thousands of police officers on the streets,"
says Sergeant Al Koenig, head of the Calgary Police Association. "You
could buy 50 helicopters and give them to police services."
Koenig intends to bring a motion to the floor of the CPPA conference calling
for a formal withdrawal of any support for the firearms registry, and
for the government to address training, licensing and sentencing issues. NEW
BRUNSWICK POLICE ASSOCIATION PRESIDENT: "Crimes
are still being committed with guns that are likely registered,”
Const. Secord said. "We want to know how they're going to fix that.”
Constable Dean Secord is President of the 415-member New Brunswick Police
Association and a 16-year veteran with the Saint John Police Force CALGARY
POLICE ASSOCIATION PRESIDENT: "The amount
of money that's gone into the registry could have put 5,000 officers on
the street across Canada," said Al Koenig, president of the Calgary
Police Association, which represents 1,400 rank-and-file officers.
For rank-and-file officers such as Koenig, the gun registry has “negligible
value” as a crime-fighting tool, because criminals don't register
their guns. He notes that in Calgary, investigators have raided marijuana
grow-ops and found shotguns inside. The registry, however, did nothing
to warn police that a firearm was in the house. CALGARY
POLICE CHIEF: While some police unions oppose the
registry, the nation's police chiefs have historically backed it -- though
Toronto Chief Julian Fantino recently broke ranks and questioned the registry's
value amid an ever-rising tide of shootings in that city. Calgary's police
chief won't go as far as Fantino, but said he has concerns with the system
and the cost overruns. “Our investigators are encountering
situations where registration information isn't accurate,” Chief
Jack Beaton said recently. “It has to be cost-efficient, or else
in our opinion, the money could be better spent.” HOMICIDE
DETECTIVE STEVE ROBERTS: "Gun control
is a joke," says Montreal homicide detective Steve Roberts. "Bad
guys don't register their guns, only people like you and me register their
weapons. It would have been a lot cheaper if the government changed
the Criminal Code and started treating armed criminals like they do in
England", says Roberts. "Robbery in England is one thing but
armed robbery is something else. That's worth an easy 10 years jail time." MONTREAL
POLICE COMMANDER SYLVAIN LEMAY: Montreal Police say
that common street criminals are often well armed with cheap weapons.
SPVM (Service de la Police de la Ville de Montreal) Commander Sylvain
Lemay says that his men, unless they know otherwise, now treat every suspect
as if they are armed and dangerous. Lemay, who commands the SPVM's street
gang division in the city's southern sector says easy access to weapons
has 'raised the bar' of ordinary street crime. "Guns are
cheap," says one plainclothes investigator, "and you never know
who has one." TORONTO
POLICE CHIEF JULIAN FANTINO: Asked about the
bamboozle of the federal gun-registry system, a billion-dollar fiasco,
Fantino — who does not support the registry, unlike most police
chiefs in Canada — noted that the system has not helped Toronto
police solve a single homicide. "We have spent an extraordinary amount
of money in this one area, but we haven't given the same attention with
regards to gun crime in our society.'' RETIRED
ASSISTANT COMMISSIONER ROBERT H. HEAD: As a retired
police officer (with 38 years of service) and a life member of the Canadian
Association of Chiefs of Police, I can honestly say the gun registry
is the greatest waste of law enforcement funds that has ever been inflicted
on the Canadian taxpayer. We need our money spent on programs
that will enhance law enforcement, namely more police officers, more criminal
intelligence gathering targeted at criminal organizations and more vigilance
at our borders to stop illegal immigrants and trade in weapons. Our
political masters just don't get it. They continue to believe violent
deaths can be eliminated through a gun registry. Nothing is further from
the truth. CST.
MURRAY GRISMER, SASKATOON POLICE SERVICE: The never
ending saga of how the Liberals have lied to Canadian Taxpayers and Canadian
Police has yet reached again another plateau of arrogance and deception.
Yes that’s right; investigative reporting now uncovers a price tag
at 2 Billion Dollars as opposed the 1 Billion Dollars the auditor General’s
staff were able to track for the Firearm Registry. To put that in terms
we can all understand that is a cost overrun of 1000% over the 2 Million
Dollar original Liberal price tag. The gross mismanagement and deception
is of such a magnitude that the only term truly applicable is Criminal.
The fact that the Canadian Association of Chiefs of Police (CACP) and
the Canadian Police Association (now CPPA) have been willing co-conspirators
and supporters of this egregious fraud is truly a slight, a black mark
to the good character of every officer in Canada. Given the financial
scandal just uncovered to the tune of 250 million dollars in the Quebec
Sponsorship Affair, of which the RCMP were involved to the sum of 5 million
dollars, this gives cause for all to question; when will this all stop?
Who in Ottawa does not have their hand in the public purse engaging in
conduct that by definition would be nothing short of theft of fraud? We
have a great many social issues being starved for money, health care,
child poverty, domestic violence programs, the homeless, etc. Our military
has been stripped of the tools and funding to adequately fulfill their
mandate, forced to use antiquated aircraft and vehicles, supplied with
clothing that is inappropriate for their roll in combat operations. Our
borders are an open door to drugs, contraband and terrorists. Our streets
and schools are plagued with drugs, prostitution and violence escalating
at levels that defy reason, explanation or attempts to stem the tide.
When will the needs of everyday Canadians be placed ahead of the greed
and avarice of politicians and bureaucrats? TORONTO
POLICE CHIEF JULIAN FANTINO: "In the most immediate
sense, what we need to do is put these criminals out of commission and
we can't do it ourselves," he said, reiterating his calls for harsher
sentences. "We need a criminal justice system that works
more efficiently and effectively to deter people intent on engaging on
a life of crime. "In today's reality, in the minds of far too many
criminals, gangsters and that, crime pays," added Fantino. "Going
to court every couple of days is the price of doing business. Legal aid
is provided, they get bail forever, (and) sentences are discounted like
bargain-basement kinds of sales." The most recent slayings
brought the number of murders in Toronto to nine so far this year, compared
with three at the same time last year. TORONTO
POLICE CHIEF JULIAN FANTINO: "I feel that sometimes
it's just like digging a hole in the Sahara desert. It keeps filling in.
There's no end of guns, no end of gunmen out there. There's no
end of drugs and there's no end of violence. Something else has to happen." TORONTO POLICE CHIEF JULIAN FANTINO: Since the Guns and Gangs Task Force began conducting compliance checks on residents freed on bail after being charged in a gun-related crime, "almost 50% were breaching their conditions," he said. During such "house calls" over the last four months, 119 of the 239 accused criminals checked were re-arrested for failing to live up to pre-trial release orders. "What does that tell you? They are not intimidated or deterred by the consequences of their actions," Fantino said. Toronto Police statistics show that "84% of the people we arrest for gun-related offences are all career criminals," he said. Toronto cops last year also responded to a total of 3,285 "gun calls" placed by residents who reported seeing someone with a firearm, hearing gunshots or someone indicating they had a gun. In 2002, there were 2,998 gun calls. Fantino
said he got a "good reception" in recent conversations with
federal and provincial lawmakers. In addition to pressing for
anyone arrested on a gun-related crime to be denied bail, Fantino wants
mandatory 10-year prison terms for convicted gunmen instead of "graduated
scales." Denying bail would avoid "the revolving door"
that leaves witnesses in fear after thugs are quickly freed, Fantino said.
"Let's put the fear back into criminals and not into citizens, as
the gunmen have been doing," he said. PRESIDENT
OF THE CALGARY POLICE ASSOCIATION: Prime minister
Paul Martin is re-thinking another one of the legacies of the Chretien
era. Martin says his government will review the federal gun registry.
The registry has already cost one billion dollars and the Liberals want
to find out if the money could be more effective in other areas, such
as border security. The head of the Calgary Police Association says the
money could be better spent hiring more police officers or cracking down
on the criminals. "A lot of our members on the street say
they don't really care if the gun that's firing at them is registered
or unregistered," said Al Koenig. "The fact is, the gun exists
and the person that pulled the trigger should be paying a far greater
price than what they are receiving right now." WINNIPEG
POLICE ASSOCIATION: Loren Schinkel of the
Winnipeg Police Association says the registry has done little to curb
crime. The registry has rung up roughly a billion dollars in expenses
since it was first announced in the mid-1990s. Schinkel compares that
dollar amount to Winnipeg's annual police budget, which is less than $150
million. "If you put it into that context, you could certainly understand
what that money could do for the citizens of any major centre.”
Premier Gary Doer wants the whole gun registry shot down. "This is
a boondoggle," he says. "It's too much for very few results.
We can use this money for health care and more security at the border. PRESIDENT
OF THE CALGARY POLICE ASSOCIATION: Al Koenig, president
of the Calgary Police Association, said the vast amount of money spent
on the firearms program could have been much better put to use for front-line
police officers in Canada. He said the program has had no effect
on crime or acted in any way as a deterrent. "Our position
on this is very firm," said Koenig. "We do not support it, and
we will be fighting against it. "The police and the public are still
at risk. . . . Despite the money spent, it should be scrapped.” CANADIAN
CRIME VICTIM FOUNDATION: Joe Wamback, of the Canadian
Crime Victim Foundation, backed claims by Police Chief Julian Fantino
that too often police arrest career criminals only to find them back on
the streets. "It seems judges are in competition to give the lightest
sentence. There is no consequence for violent crime, so there is no justice,"
Wamback said. "Justice statistics from 65 countries show
Canada is No. 1 when it comes to giving the shortest sentences to criminals.”
In November, Fantino asked Ottawa to review the justice system but says
he has had no reply. Police need more help to keep thugs behind bars and
off the streets, Fantino said after the recent rash of gang shootings. TORONTO
POLICE CHIEF JULIAN FANTINO: The homicide rate in
Toronto crept to its highest level in a decade after a bloody holiday
weekend in which two young people were shot dead and police found a body
they suspect is that of a missing teenager. This comes as Police Chief
Julian Fantino called on the federal government to review the criminal
justice system. Chief Fantino told reporters that the vast majority
of gun crimes in the city involve people with criminal records, and that
there are at least 73 street gangs operating in Toronto. On Saturday,
two men died in separate gun-related incidents and another 18-year-old
is recovering in hospital. So far, there have been 64 homicides in Toronto,
compared with 60 last year and 61 in 2001. HOMICIDE
STAFF-INSPECTOR GARY ELLIS: This weekend, however,
the violence became particularly vicious. There were three murders, 28
robberies and five home invasions, including one where a baby had a gun
pointed at her head. Homicide Staff-Inspector Gary Ellis said
public safety is being threatened by weak youth crime laws, soft prison
terms, ineffectual firearms laws and a proposal to decriminalize
dope. TORONTO
POLICE CHIEF JULIAN FANTINO: "And while he acknowledged
crime stats have been drifting lower for several years now, Fantino said
gun crime is a problem that just won't go away. Just under 50%, or 17
of the 40 murders so far this year, have involved guns, and guns are involved
in fully half of all armed robberies. Cops have seized more than 1,500
guns in 2003, averaging 42 a week. The federal gun registry, criticized
for costing too much, has been of precious little help, he said.
Fantino repeated his wish for mandatory 10-year sentences for
gun-related crimes, tougher and more consistent bail and release conditions
and an agreement with hospitals for automatic reporting of gunshot injuries." TORONTO
POLICE SERGEANT JOE GATAVECKAS: The existence of gun
rentals in Toronto is not a new phenomenon, according to police, but one
that signals an increasing gang presence on city streets. "I don't
think it's something new; it's something that's resurging," said
Sergeant Joe Gataveckas. "Wherever there's gangs, there's
guns." In some cases, police have arrested suspects after
a shooting and discovered they rented the weapon only an hour earlier.
But while charges for possession or distribution of illegal firearms carry
heavy penalties, Sgt. Gataveckas is not confident they quell the demand
for rented weapons. "They don't care what laws they're breaking,
they just want to go out and shoot somebody," he said. CST. MURRAY GRISMER, SASKATOON POLICE SERVICE: Well it has happened; the law enforcement officer has now became the criminal. Through no fault, negligence, fraud, theft or deceit on my part, I have joined the ranks of Canada's "Criminal Element”. Many of which I am proud to stand beside. How could this happen many may ask? The truth is both complex and simple. As of July 1, 2003, I did not have registration certificates for all or any of my firearms. Well now there it is, many would say I must have neglected to send in the registrations, therefore I was negligent. Not so! In December 2002, I like many Canadians sent in registration information for my firearms to the Canadian Firearm Center. To ensure the speedy and guaranteed receipt of my information I sent the documents by Canada Post Registered mail. To further guarantee the delivery I paid an extra premium to have it return registered so that I would have a copy of the signature of receipt, which I got. I have documented proof that the CFC received my registration docuements. Well now, many would say then I must have been deceitful, again Not so ! I sent them the information that they stated was mandatory along with my PAL number and the registration numbers for any restricted or prohibited firearms that I have. It was all there. Well now, many will question how did this happen?, for the CFC and the Minister of Justice stated that I must and would have my registrations by June 30, 2003. After that date I would then be facing Criminal Charges and Prosecution. Well June 30, 2003, has came and gone and I have checked my mail box faithfully but to date I have "NO" Registration Certificates for any of my firearms. There you have it I have been made a CRIMINAL, not through my negligence but through the negligence and lack of due diligence on the part of the CFC, RCMP and the Federal Department of Justice. If I were a person who believes in criminal conspiracies, I would believe that as I have long been an outspoken opponent of the Firearms Registry on behalf of Police Officers, that the Government, CFGC and the CFC are attempting to vilify me by making me a criminal. But that wouldn't happen in Canada would it ..... would it? I have told other police officers that I do not have registration certificates for my firearms. Now here comes the strange part, they don't care. Not because I am a fellow officer, but because they recognize the clear and blatant fact the Firearm Registry is now and always will be a "FAILURE" of gigantic proportion. None, and I repeat none, have any confidence in the system or the information it contains. None of the many fine police officers I know or have represented are willing to place their credibility on the line, based on a registry so inherently fraught with errors both in data captured and information lost or deleted. When you and the Canadian public hear David Griffin, Executive Director of the Canadian Police Association extolling the virtues of the Firearm Registry and how Canada's police support it, you must realize this undisputable fact, they have never, not once ever, polled the rank and file police officers of Canada's Police Forces, that they claim to represent on the issue. Further the CPA can never be accused of original thought on the issue of for they merely regurgitate the information provided to them by the CFC and the Justice Ministers department, while readily discounting or attempting to discredit empirical information, studies and polls to the contrary. Thus you have heard accusations that the CPA is nothing more than a "shill" for the Federal Justice Minister. I leave it to you and the Canadian Taxpayers, who have to foot the Billion Dollar bill for this fiasco to be the Judges. I am however confident that both of you have the intellect and intelligence to see the truth. I find it rather interesting that the newly struck Advisory Committee to the Commissioner of the CFC has not only the CPA, but also a representative of the First Nations Chiefs of Police Association. This last group is some what of a paradox given the fact that many First Nations Groups across Canada are challenging the registration of firearms as a violation of Treaty and Constitutional rights. Thus it would appear that the First Nations Chiefs of Police support legislation that may in fact violate the rights of Canada's Aboriginal Peoples. If I were cynical, I would say this of the Advisory Committee, that you only get what you pay for. Well now, I guess that I am now left to await Wayne Easter's goons to come and get me, for I am a criminal, albeit in good company. Never once in any forum have I ever advocated criminal action or civil disobedience, yet here I am one of Canada's new breed of criminal, a Firearms Owner. Maybe
Wayne Easter can get David Griffin to come and arrest me, if he can find
his way out of Ottawa, remember what real police work is all about and
summon up enough courage to try. CONSTABLE
GORD NASH, NIAGARA REGIONAL POLICE: Constable Gord
Nash, The NRP’s use-of- But force analyst, said the types of firearms
police have been finding are no longer just the standard shotguns or rifles.
In St.Catharines in 2002, police recovered an Uzi, Cobray Mac 10 Machine
pistol- similar to a submachine gun- and three 9mm Intratecs machine pistols.
"They aren’t your traditional weapons you came across in the
past, but you’re coming across them now," Nash said. "While
police don’t know why there has been such an increase, Nichols said
the proliferation of firearms is a concern to services throughout Ontario.
"While the debate seems to revolve around registered firearms, we
continue to deal with unregistered and smuggled firearms." A.
DALE BURN, CALGARY POLICE SERVICE: “If people
want guns, they're always going to be able to get the guns and, unfortunately,
those people are the ones that get the guns for the wrong reasons. Not
a lot we can do about it, do the best we can, but I think it all boils
down to stiffer penalties, get the people off the street, the guns go
with them,” said Dale Burn, Calgary Police Service.” B.
PRESIDENT OF THE 66-MEMBER ONTARIO ASSOCIATION OF CHIEFS OF POLICE, CHIEF
TOM KAYE: Ontario's police chiefs have branded Ottawa's controversial
gun registry program an "unenforceable" mess and are warning
that they will not charge people under the law until problems are resolved.
"It puts us in a position where the law is unenforceable, so we're
advising our officers to use discretion and not issue offence notices
until this mess is sorted out," said Owen Sound police Chief Tom
Kaye yesterday. Kaye is president of the 66-member Ontario Association
of Chiefs of Police. "It wouldn't be right to charge someone when
we wouldn't have a reasonable chance of getting a conviction," Kaye
said. At a meeting in Halton Hills this week, the executive of the chiefs'
association voted to send a letter suggesting the federal government put
the registry on hold until the problems are resolved. "When the registry
was first proposed, the government came to us looking for support; if
we are going to maintain that level of support, we want some answers about
what's going on," Kaye said.
D.
PRESIDENT OF THE VANCOUVER POLICE UNION, TOM STAMATAKIS: Tom
Stamatakis, president of the Vancouver Police Union, told me: "I
can't say if the registry has been helpful or not. It has been such a
long, drawn-out process of getting the firearms registered. And there
have been problems with compliance." Stamatakis says police would
get "more bang for our money by investing in staffing, equipment,
ways of dealing with horrendous drug issues and marijuana grow ops and
availability of court time. I see lots of other areas that could use the
resources being committed to this firearms registry." E.
PRESIDENT, WINNIPEG POLICE ASSOCIATION, LORNE SCHINKEL: Loren
Schinkel, president of the Winnipeg Police Association, says his 1,500-member
group opposed the firearms registry from day one. Most problem guns, says
Schinkel, are smuggled across the border -- semi-automatics and submachine
guns. Their owners don't register them, for sure. In Winnipeg, among those
registering were owners of a soldering gun and a paint-removal heat gun.
Schinkel says when he thinks of cutbacks in RCMP labs, in police staffing
and at the Canadian Police College, the "black hole" gun registry
frustrates him. "Let's get a grip here and get the right priorities
back into the system." F.
CAMROSE POLICE CHIEF, MARSHALL CHALMERS: Camrose
police chief Marshall Chalmers is still struggling to understand the logic
and costs behind the new federal firearms act. "That's something
we're struggling with as chiefs across the province. I don't see (the
need), given its massive costs." Chalmers said that prior to its
implementation "the Canadian Association of Chiefs of Police were
assured that the program's cost wouldn't top $800 million and it is now
nearly a billion and the deadlines keep changing. It's nearly impossible
to enforce." In Chalmers' estimation the money "would have been
better spent working to bring criminals to justice and by funding joint
force operations that police forces deal with daily and by providing the
resources we need to deal with organized crime and criminals." Gun
registration is not new. In fact, "we've been registering handguns
since 1933...Clearly, it's not working."
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“There are approx 49,000 registered firearms in B.C. belonging
to people who have not applied for the new firearms licence. I inform
police of this statistic however also advise no police force has the manpower
to deal with it.” RCMP Cst. Steve Poirier, Course
Coordinator of the RCMP Pacific Region Training Centre – April 16,
2002.
The federal Justice Department's PR offensive on gun control has been, in a word, offensive. Heavily manipulated RCMP crime figures were fed to the justice minister and the Canadian Association of Chiefs of Police to ensure their compliance and support of the government's showpiece gun-control legislation and its gratuitous and punitive regulatory demands on all long-gun owners. Senseless
street shootings in big cities grab headlines and enlarge support for
gun control. But these violent incidents mostly involve handguns and prohibited
weapons already heavily regulated, but readily available on the illicit
gun market. No amount of regulatory control will stop the random shootings
with a Saturday-night special purchased on the street for a few hundred
bucks. To stop those incidents, we need more police, more patrols, more
arrests, more charges and much more meaningful sentencing in the courts.
Instead, we have pointless, costly government harassment of long-gun owners,
who wouldn't recognize a Saturday night special from an adjustable wrench.
We don't need more bean-counting police officers and thousands of bureaucrats
expensively, needlessly and rudely intruding into the lives of millions
of law-abiding citizens who live in rural regions and the hinterlands.
But, alas, it is much safer to play at fighting crime, while real crime
thrives.
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